7 mocnych punktów: czyli solidna gra w wykonaniu silnych graczy czy ty tez potrafisz stosować te same reguły oceny pozycji? Ostatnio obserwuje wypowiedzi silniejszych graczy (poziom 1900-2200) i (na podstawie komentarzy) staram się podglądać ich sposób myślenia, oceny pozycji, planowania i liczenia wariantów. Na tej podstawie uznałem, że warto zwrócić uwagę na to w jaki sposób oceniają pozycję. Poniższa lista zawiera pytania z uwzględnieniem ważności danego pytania. Zaznaczam, że najczęściej w takiej samej kolejności przechodzą one przez filtr oceny pozycji przez mocnych graczy. Niekiedy oczywiście od razu przeskakują oni do dalszego pytania zwłaszcza jeśli widzą, że odpowiedzi na poprzednie nie są istotne dla obecnej pozycji. Oto siedem najbardziej istotnych punktów (pytań), które pojawiają się w głowie silnych zawodników: 1. Czy ruch jest czysty? Jeśli jest to podstawienie materiału, wówczas zwykle komentarz opiera się na krótkim stwierdzeniu: ten ruch traci X, Y, Z, gdzie za literę można sobie wstawić skrót od H, W, G, S czy piona. To kluczowy element po którym gra się kończy. Silniejsi zawodnicy niejako z marszu (od ręki) widzą jeśli coś zostało podstawione - zwłaszcza jeśli jest to 2-3 ruchowa (forsowna) operacja taktyczna. Bez czystej gry nie ma co marzyć o solidnym poziomie - jest to aktualne zwłaszcza obecnie: posiadamy odpowiednie narzędzia i tysiące analiz dotyczących taktyki, kombinacji oraz zadań do rozwiązywania. Dodam jedynie, że w obecnej chwili można bez problemu kupić książki (głównie w jęz. angielskim i rosyjskim) w których znajdziemy od 20 do 30.000 zadań do rozwiązania. Nie trzeba dodawać, że jest to wystarczająca ilość, aby się nie nudzić przez co najmniej kilka dobrych lat (zakładając codzienne rozwiązywanie po 30-45 minut). 2. Czy ruch pasuje do wymogów pozycji - czy jest zgodny z jej istotą (tzw. duchem pozycji). Skąd silniejsi gracze wiedzą o tym czy dane zagranie pasuje czy nie? Otóż dzięki setkom schematów oraz tysiącom rozegranych i przeanalizowanych partii (mistrzów i swoich) rozumieją i pamiętają jakiego typu ruchy są w danej pozycji najlepsze czy też konieczne. Jest to bardzo ważny element - silniejsi gracze często pytają: jakie zadanie (cel) ma ten ruch? Przed czym powstrzymuje przeciwnika lub też czym grozi? Jeśli ruch nie pasuje do żadnej z 2 kategorii, wówczas pojawia się komentarz: stracony ruch. 3. Czy można kolejnym ruchem zagrozić danemu (istotnemu) punktowi na szachownicy? Zwykle silni gracze czepiają się tak zwanych słabości. Jeśli widzą, że król jest słabo broniony, to pytają w jaki sposób mogą to wykorzystać. Rzecz jasna wszelkie słabości, które rzucają się w oczy są dla takich zawodników od razu zauważane. Wraz z pytaniem co grozi od razu zwykle pojawia się następne pytanie, którym próbują zahamować groźbę. Przykładowo: grozi Gxc3 z następnym Hxh7+ i Wh1 z matem. Jest obrona w postaci X lub Y.
4. Czy figury są aktywne i czy jest rekompensata jeśli jest strata materialna lub pasywnie stojące figury. Bardzo często silni gracze natychmiast wyłapują źle stojące i nic nie robiące figury. Natomiast przy stracie materialnej pytają jak można (szybko) przestawić w taki sposób figury, aby mogły być aktywne i tworzyć groźby. W przypadku nieco większej (decydującej) przewagi i braku rekompensaty pojawia się jedyny komentarz: pozycja jest przegrana albo brak jest rekompensaty i/lub kontry. 5. Czy możliwe jest przeprowadzenie planu zgodnego z optymalnym ustawieniem figur i maksymalnym wykorzystaniem ich potencjału? W tym wypadku silni gracze dostrzegają kluczowe aspekty pozycji i natychmiast mówią: teraz trzeba szybko otworzyć linię i następnie atakować po niej punkty X, Y, Z albo białe blokują piona i następnie zdwajają ciężkie figury lub zajmują linię X, Y, Z. 6. Czy dana pozycja po wymianie będzie dla mnie lepsza czy nie? Jeśli nie widać korzyści, wówczas czekamy na inną możliwość - nie wymieniamy nawet jednego piona! Bardzo istotne w przypadku silnych graczy jest to, że nie wykonują oni ruchów, które upraszczają pozycję - tak długo jak nie są do tego zmuszeni (brak wymiany spowoduje stratę) lub dopóki nie widzą istotnych korzyści z przeprowadzenia wymiany. Warto pamiętać, że utrzymywanie napięcia daje większe szanse na zrobienie błędu - przy okazji trzeba także stale zwracać uwagę na to co się stanie w przypadku serii wymian. Szalenie ważne jest to, że dla silnego gracza wymiana, która nie daje przewagi jest błędem! Tak, raz jeszcze powtórzę - KAŻDA wymiana, która nie daje korzyści jest błędem! Sprawia bowiem, że szanse na wygraną (na wymuszenie błędu) są coraz mniejsze. Są pozycje przy małej ilości bierek, które bez problemu zremisują średniej klasy zawodnicy nawet z mistrzem. 7. Czy dana pozycja wymaga ataku czy obrony? Jeśli trzeba się bronić to w jaki sposób przegrupować siły? Gdzie ustawić skoczka, w którym miejscu ma stać wieża, a jakie pozycje mają zając piony? Bardzo często silni zawodnicy pytają: czy można wymusić przejście do remisowej końcówki w której przewaga materialna nie będzie decydująca? Z kolei jeśli atakują to zadają sobie pytania: jak sprawić, aby przeciwnik nie mógł skutecznie odeprzeć ataku? Jak realizować przewagę, aby nie było konieczne dopuszczenie niebezpiecznej kontry? Która ze słabości będzie najłatwiejsza do wykorzystania? Powyżej podane zostały ogólne wskazówki do tego, aby zrozumieć w jaki sposób podchodzi do partii silny gracz. Jego ocena pozycji, wyszukiwanie ruchów oraz planowanie i liczenie wariantów opierają się na pewnym systemie, który stale poddawany jest ulepszeniom. Niektóre typu pozycji silniejsi zawodnicy potrafią bezbłędnie ocenić i rozegrać - bez względu czy będąc stroną atakującą czy broniącą się. Nie zapominajmy jednak, że zwykle za dużą siłą i zrozumieniem gry stoją setki godzin ćwiczeń, tysiące rozegranych partii oraz setki rozwiązanych zadań i przeanalizowanych partii (pozycji). Bardzo rzadko się zdarza znaleźć gracza, który jedynie za pomocą bardzo dobrej pamięci jest w stanie grać solidnie: zwykle przy różnych przeciwnikach (stylach oraz sile gry) szybko wychodzi to, kto potrafi grać a kto jedynie odtwarzać i przesuwać drewniane figurki.
Poniżej prezentuję przykładowy komentarze do jednej z partii dwóch amatorów po angielsku. Warto zwrócić uwagę na to jak bardzo pasuje powyższy schemat do silnych zawodników oraz jak słabsi zawodnicy pomijają istotne elementy (czy też zupełnie chaotycznie liczą warianty, popełniając błędy). W nawiasach podane obecne rankingi graczy. Zaznaczone na niebiesko (i podkreślone) są aktualne ruchy w partii. Po nich w nawiasie podany jest zużyty czas na każdy z nich. Partia do odtworzenia znajduje się tutaj: http://mekk.waw.pl/mk/watchbot/game/3432392 *** Partia typu standard (tempo gry: 45+45), rozegrana 2012-02-10 na serwerze FICS, przez zawodników Wmahan (2019) vs. Nokiatwenty (1926) 0-1 *** - na końcu artykułu zapis partii w postaci PGN 1.e4 (0:00) Funkmaus(2272) whispers: GO WIL!!!! Funkmaus(2272) whispers: Dreamteam taking over Fischer superlaser(1808) whispers: go nokiatwenty! milpat(1930) whispers: go Willy!!!! wmahan(2019) whispers: my opponent says he is making tea Funkmaus(2272) whispers: boring to stare at this board JoshuaR(1791) whispers: i was going to say... long think Funkmaus(2272) whispers: he could hace done the tea before challenge 1...c5 (0:00) 2.Nf3 (0:06) Nc6 (0:03) 3.d4 (0:03) cxd4 (0:02) 4.Nxd4 (0:02) Funkmaus(2272) whispers: Weird - unexpected sizilian Funkmaus(2272) whispers: but Wil has almost 100% vs. it! Funkmaus(2272) whispers: so BadChoice JoshuaR(1791) whispers: hehe 4...d6 (0:19) JoshuaR(1791) whispers: maybe NokiaTwenty found an exploit? Funkmaus(2272) whispers: We will see - and if so, the game will have a learning experience wmahan(2019) whispers: he doesn't usually play this 5.Nc3 (1:27) Nf6 (0:06) Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: too many sicilians available for black~ :< JoshuaR(1791) whispers: surprise factor. double psychological attack by NT Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: not too hard to prepare against open sicilian player :s milpat(1930) whispers: Wil is goos vs sicilian Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: yah i trust him~ :D milpat(1930) whispers: seems nokia didnt do his homeworks :P 6.Be2 (1:01) g6 (0:03) Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: looks like prepared line though 7.Be3 (0:21) Bg7 (0:03) 8.f3 (0:23) O-O (0:02) JoshuaR(1791) whispers: oh good. i could use advice in this very line. so watching this will be instructive 9.Qd2 (0:03) wmahan(2019) whispers: ok unlike my usual 150 attack my bishop is on e2 Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: d5 i say superlaser(1808) whispers: i LOVE yugoslav attack for white milpat(1930) whispers: the art of the precise d5 push wmahan(2019) whispers: but against somebody with not much experience in the dragon, I think I should be ok superlaser(1808) whispers: yeah Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: this be2 thingy is weird milpat(1930) whispers: seems i will never master it :( Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: to take out of book i guess superlaser(1808) whispers: nah Be2 ok can prepare g4 push better than Bc4 superlaser(1808) whispers: just Bc4 looks better :P Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: well yes :p Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: Bc4 is certainly more critical JoshuaR(1791) whispers: i was going to ask. i generally play Be2 in more of the f4 types 9...Nxd4 (2:01) superlaser(1808) whispers: wow 10.Bxd4 (0:05) Be6 (0:05) superlaser(1808) whispers: not d5 yet then Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: umm :p JoshuaR(1791) whispers: well still blitz mode from NT. all part of his plan Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: i've played dragon for a while superlaser(1808) whispers: yah same superlaser(1808) whispers: never played this though JoshuaR(1791) whispers: i don't think i've ever played black dragon in a long game... lol Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: sometimes it's a good idea to allow white to play Nxe6 superlaser(1808) whispers: Nxd4 certainly unusual wmahan(2019) whispers: O-O-O Qa5 Kb1 Rac8 Nd5!? superlaser(1808) whispers: ah well, gl both Funkmaus(2272) whispers: white can go 0-0 still Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: he almost certainly doesn't want to play O-O :p JoshuaR(1791) whispers: not if he plays g4. push those pawns! Funkmaus(2272) whispers: No, he wont - will be an entertaining show 11.O-O-O (2:28) Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: hehe :p 11...Qa5 (0:45) 12.Kb1 (0:06) MlodyBog(2127) whispers: go wmahan Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: hah :p Funkmaus(2272) whispers: wow - you cheer for him? milpat(1930) whispers: i thought NT was ur friend mlody Funkmaus(2272) whispers: exactly MlodyBog(2127) whispers: nokia Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: that may be the reason :p MlodyBog(2127) whispers: its patzer :) milpat(1930) whispers: hehe Twikki(2067) whispers: why's he playing a slow line against the dragon? Funkmaus(2272) whispers: fast line if black doesnt go Nxd4 - but im not sure JoshuaR(1791) whispers: oh, this isn't normal? wmahan(2019) whispers: Rfc8 Nd5 Qxd2 Nxf6 Bxf6 Rxd2 Bxd4 Rxd4 trades everything Twikki(2067) whispers: Be2 + f3 is weird Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: i wouldn't call this "slow" :p Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: but certainly a bit unusual Funkmaus(2272) whispers: to me they all are similar, and the line Wil posted looks good MlodyBog(2127) whispers: Qxd2 Nxe7?+ milpat(1930) whispers: yes Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: that's why Rfc8.. :p Twikki(2067) whispers: b5 makes some sense here Funkmaus(2272) whispers: b5 is free pawn :)) Twikki(2067) whispers: no it isnt :P Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: always dangerous to accept Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: i wouldn't :p Funkmaus(2272) whispers: i would - first take and suffer for - all kingdom for free material Twikki(2067) whispers: xb5 Bxa2 gets it back immediately milpat(1930) whispers: take b5 open file to ur K Jen :P Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: umm that's better :p Funkmaus(2272) whispers: ah if Bxa2 then i wont take it. i thought about slow attack in the b-file, then i would ;) Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: but even without xa2 black should be good 12...Rfc8 (4:29) milpat(1930) whispers: this prevents Nd5/xe7+ tricks
Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: does w want to trade everything? :p milpat(1930) whispers: Rxc3 is a threat now? MlodyBog(2127) whispers: Rxc3 Qxc3 milpat(1930) whispers: Qxa2+ Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: it's entertaining though wmahan(2019) whispers: g3 vs Nd5 Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: no mate Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: white cant play bxf6 here milpat(1930) whispers: no mate, simply unpleasant Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: shouldn't have that much trouble holding :< Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: nd5 and a3 are playable Funkmaus(2272) whispers: still book, Chrisss Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: oh wait.. Funkmaus(2272) whispers: *Chris? Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: well, not exactly Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: g4 Rxc3 Qxc3 Qxa2 Kc1 Bh6 Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: be2 is not book, as its somewhat useless Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: that's annoying Suiseiseki(2003) whispers:..be3 Rc8 Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: i know this line such taht white can play bxf6 bxf6 nd5 qxd2 nxf6+ Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: but its with a3 instead of be2 Twikki(2067) whispers: oh, nm b5 Nd5 was good for white Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: i guess i would play a3 still, as white Funkmaus(2272) whispers: +1 Twikki(2067) whispers: whereas Nd5 here is just boring and very slightly better for black tjradd(2101) whispers: looks like a dragon where white is wasting time milpat(1930) whispers: no time can be wasted in dragon Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: i guess i take back my comment, Be2 is slow indeed :p Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: as i said up to be2 whites line was fine Funkmaus(2272) whispers: :( Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: its still fine for white Twikki(2067) whispers: yeah, it's either Be2 or f3... doing both is kind of pointless Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: i personally prefer be2 without f3 wmahan(2019) whispers: sorry meant b3 Funkmaus(2272) whispers: I think Wil too, we ve been talking about how this bishop sits at home and the pawnstorm attack milpat(1930) whispers: white had not launch any kside storm yet wmahan(2019) whispers: b3 Rc7 followed by Rac8 and I might have to Nd5 anyway Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: in this line white does not play for pawnstorm, but for better structure in the centre Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: i thought he wanted to avoid prepared lines Twikki(2067) whispers: whoa, b3? yikes Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: he thought a min on Be2 milpat(1930) whispers: b3? Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: a3 is fine but b3 is suicide JoshuaR(1791) whispers: did he plan o-o until g6 then changed mind to yugoslav-ish-whatever? Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: b3 never :< Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: or almost milpat(1930) whispers: sounds strange JoshuaR(1791) whispers: or f4 rather than f3? Funkmaus(2272) whispers: yes Joshua, you got it and now I do too - he wanted different line and as seen that g6, wanted dragon Funkmaus(2272) whispers: what a move order can do 13.Nd5 (10:32) Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: feels like black prepared this 13...Qxd2 (0:04) Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: now qd2 Twikki(2067) whispers: b3 Bxb3!? ab e5 would have been neat to watch Funkmaus(2272) whispers: Now I like it :)) milpat(1930) whispers: maybe black did some homeworks after all, :P Funkmaus(2272) whispers: noone is gonna get mated Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: ahah :p wmahan(2019) whispers: Rxd2 Nxd5 Bxg2 Funkmaus(2272) whispers: should have done, credit to Nokia Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: rd2 bd5 ed is critical, i guess oretty even Funkmaus(2272) whispers: maybe best to keep the imbalanced game milpat(1930) whispers: Nxf6+ not good Ismir? Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: i dont think its as good Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: structurally speaking milpat(1930) whispers: ok Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: the difference is rather subtle Twikki(2067) whispers: he can sac the knight for 2 pawns... that must be good Twikki(2067) whispers: since he probably picks up the d pawn too, it might be playable 14.Rxd2 (3:03) milpat(1930) whispers: Nxe7+ xg6+ u mean? Twikki(2067) whispers: yeah Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: no way 14...Nxd5 (0:20) JoshuaR(1791) whispers: wow, very long think. unless i've disconnected milpat(1930) whispers: i looked at it, seems not great Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: that just loses Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: ed now Twikki(2067) whispers: comp preferred it to this line Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: Bxg7 Nb4 i guess? milpat(1930) whispers: maybe comp just dont wanna have to argue with u Twik ;) wmahan(2019) whispers: Bxg2 Nb4 could be annoying JoshuaR(1791) whispers: ah, i disconnected and thought he was taking a very very long time thinking about b3 wmahan(2019) whispers: but so is exd5 Bh6, bah milpat(1930) whispers: xg7 i assume he meant Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: heh :p 15.Bxg7 (3:10) Twikki(2067) whispers: Bh6 wins a pawn for black, must be a solid plus Funkmaus(2272) whispers: oh what? how? JoshuaR(1791) whispers: he saw Nb4...? Twikki(2067) whispers: in the exd5 line milpat(1930) whispers: Nb4 Bc3 i presume? Twikki(2067) whispers: Nb4 wins the a pawn JoshuaR(1791) whispers: then a2 dies Funkmaus(2272) whispers: ah.. oh. damn i see it now milpat(1930) whispers: but how N gets out? wmahan(2019) whispers: Nb4 g3 Nxc2 Bb2, bishop pair for a pawn Funkmaus(2272) whispers: yeah, the N gets out Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: one can only do so much :< JoshuaR(1791) whispers: g3? b3? Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: no idea :< JoshuaR(1791) whispers: kxg7... Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: no time for b3 milpat(1930) whispers: what g3 is doing in the story? Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: please don't blunder :s Twikki(2067) whispers: no bishop pair there... Nc3+ picks off the other one milpat(1930) whispers: Nxc3 is the move i missed Twikki(2067) whispers: Nb4 b3 Kxg7 is rather convincing 15...Nb4 (3:56) JoshuaR(1791) whispers: there is no Nxc3+ because N is already on b4 by that time Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: i agree tjradd(2101) whispers: what is a line on a3 JoshuaR(1791) whispers: sometimes i forget when i trade pieces and
do something special that i am down a piece, but that's normally in blitz Funkmaus(2272) whispers: and to what fails Bd4? tjradd(2101) whispers: there is also allowing Na2 and then playing c3 Funkmaus(2272) whispers: yep that was my idea Twikki(2067) whispers: Bd4 Ba2+ Ka1 Rxc2 or Bc1 Bb3 tjradd(2101) whispers: ok but on Bd4 there is Ba2+ and Be6 Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: is he thinking of b3? :s Twikki(2067) whispers: er, Kc1 Bb3 Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: i'm scared~ D: Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: a3 milpat(1930) whispers: a3 Kxg7 axb4?,mmm, hope there is better than that Funkmaus(2272) whispers: no, a3 Ba2+ and Nxc2 might work Funkmaus(2272) whispers: crappy tactics wmahan(2019) whispers: c3 Bxa2 Ka2 Kxg2 cxb4 Be6 doesn't look good JoshuaR(1791) whispers: those poor g and h pawns are still on their home row Twikki(2067) whispers: yeah, since Kxa2 isn't legal... wmahan(2019) whispers: a3 Nxc2 Bh6 maybe Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: yah he's not into b3~ :< JoshuaR(1791) whispers: agh, usually white players don't mix up squares. lol 16.a3 (4:48) milpat(1930) whispers: i was looking at a3/bh6 milpat(1930) whispers: not sure i saw better JoshuaR(1791) whispers: well here is that Ba2+ stuff milpat(1930) whispers: Ba2 is brave, assuming the N wil have to move wmahan(2019) whispers: Rxc2 Bh6 is also possible Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: let's throw a line~ Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: Ba2+ Ka1 Nc2+ Kx Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: Kxg7 Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: Kb3 JoshuaR(1791) whispers: what happens if Kc1 after Ba2+? inherently that seems bad, but i dunno. didn't calculate Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: looks okay JoshuaR(1791) whispers: i guess just trades and open king is bad Funkmaus(2272) whispers: also Nxc2 the hanging piece eats a pawn Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: Kc1 Nxc2 and take g7 Twikki(2067) whispers: Nxc2 seems fine JoshuaR(1791) whispers: N+R for R+B+P fredisblogs(1813) whispers: even the simple kxg7 JoshuaR(1791) whispers: so it's bad either way, not as bad on a1 Funkmaus(2272) whispers: no, lsb both alive, white is pawn down Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: Nxc2 Bh6 Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: maybe Funkmaus(2272) whispers: No! Twikki(2067) whispers: yeah, Rxc2 Funkmaus(2272) whispers: there is Ne3+ discovered Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: i mean, on Nxc2 now :p Funkmaus(2272) whispers: and it seems to be a mate Funkmaus(2272) whispers: Ah now Nxc2 ok... i thougth Ba2 stuff first, then no Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: after Ba2 Kc1 Nxc2 that looks disastrous :< Funkmaus(2272) whispers: Nxc2 Bh6 looks good wmahan(2019) whispers: I guess Rxd2 was my mistake 16...Rxc2 (4:35) Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: oooh :p DodgeBrother(1594) whispers: oh JoshuaR(1791) whispers: was sure he would play first with Ba2+ Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: this looks excessively fancy Funkmaus(2272) whispers: even now save tgat B!! Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: i guess it works though :p DodgeBrother(1594) whispers: mistake? milpat(1930) whispers: Bh6? JoshuaR(1791) whispers: Bc3 Funkmaus(2272) whispers: whatever, next is RxR BxR :p Twikki(2067) whispers: looks fine to me Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: and Nc6 :p JoshuaR(1791) whispers: yeah, either way JoshuaR(1791) whispers: class time. alas 17.Bh6 (2:45) Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: well yeah :p 17...Rxd2 (0:21) 18.Bxd2 (0:03) Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: black has a nice bishop :< Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: 0-1 Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: so annoying 18...Nc6 (0:41) milpat(1930) whispers: rest to hope the b-pair worth the pawn now Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: h-push and mate! 19.Bc3 (0:35) Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: heh :< Funkmaus(2272) whispers: I dont consider the position lost, or would you resign being pawn down? milpat(1930) whispers: launch some attack someday. yea suis Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: its lost in the long run 19...f6 (0:33) milpat(1930) whispers: many things can happens in long run Ismir Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: mate covered :/ Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: i might resign this position, depending on my opponent Funkmaus(2272) whispers: would you resign to me? 20.f4 (0:51) Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: probably yes milpat(1930) whispers: mlody told us, nokia is a patzer :D Funkmaus(2272) whispers: i am honoured - but cant give the favour back - I wont resign it to you hugozver(1902) whispers: why resign?! Bishops pair should be enough compensation Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: this is not blitz where i play on a piece down against you Funkmaus(2272) whispers: lol dont forget to tell that that game you won at the end Ismirdochegal(2137) whispers: so playing on was a good decision 20...d5 (1:30) Funkmaus(2272) whispers: here is so much fight on, and if it comes hard, DSB eats the N, trading rooks and drawish ending milpat(1930) whispers: cant believe u consider resigning as an option Funkmaus(2272) whispers: Nokia played great so far - preparation, then own ideas - now comes to the ending, maybe his ending is weak. If Mlody says he is a patzer, there must be a reason Twikki(2067) whispers: I'd consider it now Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: me neither :p Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: mlody is certainly just kidding :< Twikki(2067) whispers: d5 was a shot Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: nokia has at least reasonable endgame technique 21.exd5 (1:14) Bxd5 (0:07) 22.Rg1 (0:02) milpat(1930) whispers: go Wil!! 22...Rd8 (0:35) Breloczek(1887) whispers: Nokia will win this hugozver(1902) whispers: no he won't! Breloczek(1887) whispers: yes he will Breloczek(1887) whispers: :> 23.g4 (0:24) milpat(1930) whispers: nah hugozver(1902) whispers: wanna bet? Funkmaus(2272) whispers: he wont! Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: :o milpat(1930) whispers: he plays too fast, it smells mistakes ;) mindlin(2011) whispers: i'm not sure the bishops provide some comp wmahan(2019) whispers: Nd4 Re1!? hugozver(1902) whispers: I am sure Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: it's "some" comp, just not enough :< milpat(1930) whispers: white wants lsb x N ( or Nx lsb) Twikki(2067) whispers: Be4+ Kc1 Nd4 is nasty Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: his light bishop also is clearly inferior D: Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: darn i must find good things to say~ :< milpat(1930) whispers: haha 23...Be4+ (2:20) 24.Ka2 (0:48) Bd5+ (1:35)
Funkmaus(2272) whispers: go back and see if he wants a draw Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: guess it's just a torture repetition :< hugozver(1902) whispers: Kb1 Be4+, perpetual! jaberwock(2069) whispers: He probably just wants to gain time on clock 25.Kb1 (1:13) Bb3 (0:04) Nemisis(2113) whispers: Why would white try to draw this?! Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: it's always advantageous to repeat twice when you have the advantage~ :< Twikki(2067) whispers: inertia Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: and can deviate of course :p Nemisis(2113) whispers: He has a pretty good advantage here. Nemisis(2113) whispers: Just need some activity. Funkmaus(2272) whispers: psychologically - yes - checking if opp. wants a draw. But here is nothing to check: pretty clear that white is playing against the loss Nemisis(2113) whispers: Oh white is on a team that is down on points? Funkmaus(2272) whispers: No; its the first game - speaking of the current position 26.Rg3 (2:07) Bd1 (0:06) Nemisis(2113) whispers: eh. I have seen a lot of games where the bishop pair is worth two pawns if you have activity. Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: too blitzed milpat(1930) whispers: leave back rank is brave mindlin(2011) whispers: Bc4? Funkmaus(2272) whispers: impressive speed lol Nemisis(2113) whispers: And Bd1 was horrid. Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: black was certainly better 5 moves ago :< Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: now white may be awakening Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: GO!! 27.Bc4+ (0:42) milpat(1930) whispers: those move in 5 seconds...pff Ismirdochegal(2141) whispers: bc4 and white is very well in the game 27...Kf8 (0:07) milpat(1930) whispers: hope Wil does not enter in NT rythm Funkmaus(2272) whispers: g5! f5 Rh3 - and here comes the activity Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: think wil can beat him in blitz? :p Ismirdochegal(2141) whispers: g5 seems plausible Nemisis(2113) whispers: Yup. Or similar. Do you think h4 is good enough? Probably g5 is best. milpat(1930) whispers: g5 Ba4 Twikki(2067) whispers: Nd4 is probably useful for black 28.g5 (1:24) Nemisis(2113) whispers: Doesn't that lose a piece? Funkmaus(2272) whispers: GO!!!!! Nemisis(2113) whispers: Maybe I am blind today. Seems Nd4 Rd3 wins. Funkmaus(2272) whispers: Wil is alive and kicking Twikki(2067) whispers: Nd4 Rd3 Bc2+ Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: yes yes :o Nemisis(2113) whispers: oh right I am blind thanks Twikki. Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: why did he play Bd1 in 5 sec, i have no idea~ :p Nemisis(2113) whispers: Trying to trade down to an inferior positions.:-) Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: now the lsb roles are inverted ~ white's bishop is clearly superior milpat(1930) whispers: with 40 min on clock lol Nemisis(2113) whispers: Possibly doesn't know a bishops power grows in the endgame when a knights weakens? milpat(1930) whispers: some peoples tend to think only when they are in trouble milpat(1930) whispers: (...which might come :P) Ismirdochegal(2141) whispers: like me :D milpat(1930) whispers: yea, i noted u never think ismir ;) wmahan(2019) whispers: f5 Rh3 Bh5 Be6 with the threat of Bxf5 Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: yes yes :o Nemisis(2113) whispers: Rh3 seems like a waste of time. Twikki(2067) whispers: looks like Nd4 only draws wmahan(2019) whispers: then Nd4 Bxd4 Rxd4 Bxf5 gxf5 Rxh5 Rxf4 Rxh7 I hope is a draw Twikki(2067) whispers: there are some cheap mates in there, but easily avoided Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: well, white can try to push for the win now~ :< Suiseiseki(2003) whispers:..maybe :p ReyFeroz(2083) whispers: suiseiseki ReyFeroz(2083) whispers: do you have elo fide? Nemisis(2113) whispers: I am still learning my advanced endgames, but according to theory white should have a decent advantage. Nemisis(2113) whispers: At least compensation for the pawn. Nemisis(2113) whispers: One comment I heard that surprised me is some believe a bishop vs a knight in an endgame is like losing a full exchange for the knight holder in most positons. 28...Nd4 (6:57) Ismirdochegal(2141) whispers: R+B is cleraly stronger than R+N Ismirdochegal(2141) whispers: but people tend to exaggerate Nemisis(2113) whispers: Maybe.:-) Twikki(2067) whispers: gf was my main line here wmahan(2019) whispers: I thought this must be good for me Nemisis(2113) whispers: I still say white has the advantage and should play for activity. wmahan(2019) whispers: oh I see, Rd3 Bc2. missed that Nemisis(2113) whispers: So did I.:-) Nemisis(2113) whispers: But Re3 is still interesting. Funkmaus(2272) whispers: Rh3 Kg7 Re3 Kf8 Rh3 - i smell repetition Funkmaus(2272) whispers: or how else face Rh3? milpat(1930) whispers: gx seems logical, what i miss? mindlin(2011) whispers: Rh3 seems logical Nemisis(2113) whispers: naw gx is bad. milpat(1930) whispers: Rh3 Bf5 wasted of time? milpat(1930) whispers: Bh5* Funkmaus(2272) whispers: on Bh5 Rd3 works Twikki(2067) whispers: Rh3 Kg7 Re3 Nf5 Nemisis(2113) whispers: ya. Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: but doesn't win a piece :p wmahan(2019) whispers: I hope I don't get mated somehow after gxf Bc2 Kh2 Rd1 Nemisis(2113) whispers: Would win a pawn.:-p Funkmaus(2272) whispers: but wins a pawn on Nc6 Funkmaus(2272) whispers: ya Nemisis(2113) whispers: or get back a lost pawn. wmahan(2019) whispers: sorry that's not a line Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: well right :p milpat(1930) whispers: good Wil, take ur time Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: not sure if i'd take draw as w now Nemisis(2113) whispers: Well Rh3 Kg7 and Re3 would gain some time. 29.gxf6 (4:49) exf6 (0:03) 30.Bb4+ (0:42) Nemisis(2113) whispers: yeah I don't like gxf 30...Kg7 (0:05) Nemisis(2113) whispers: I like it after Rh3 Kg7 Re3 and Kf8. Seems much more powderful. Twikki(2067) whispers: Kf8 wasn't forced Nemisis(2113) whispers: What else be played? Twikki(2067) whispers: Nf5 Nemisis(2113) whispers: Nf5 Nemisis(2113) whispers: Yeah I still like it better. Nemisis(2113) whispers: Maybe Re6. 31.Re3 (1:42) Nf5 (0:05) 32.Re6 (0:42) Nemisis(2113) whispers: I guess we will find out cause this is basically the same position. Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: white's b pair looks crushing Nemisis(2113) whispers: Bc3 a threat, I still think holding the tension was better though. More chances for mistake. Twikki(2067) whispers: b5 Bxb5 Bb3 Re1 doesn't work, so maybe prepare it with a6 wmahan(2019) whispers: the threat of Bc3 or Be7 is obvious I guess Nemisis(2113) whispers: I don't think there is enough time with a6. Twikki(2067) whispers: what am I thinking about? Rd4 is fine mindlin(2011) whispers: Rd4 looks strong for black wmahan(2019) whispers: I think I've got compensation for the pawn;
not sure about more 32...Rd4 (4:17) mindlin(2011) whispers: but the problem is f-pawn is hanging too Funkmaus(2272) whispers: oh Twikki(2067) whispers: and where does the bishop go? b3 b5 looks nasty wmahan(2019) whispers: ok I missed that Nemisis(2113) whispers: I might try a2 Twikki(2067) whispers: mate threats after Ba4, forces b3... can't be good wmahan(2019) whispers: that's quite annoying mindlin(2011) whispers: yes b3 is required I think fredisblogs(1813) whispers: definately no compensation for the pawn imho Nemisis(2113) whispers: It was. Funkmaus(2272) whispers: b3 bc2 kxb Rxc4+ bxc and Nd4+ forks Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: aah strong move mindlin(2011) whispers: he has compensation for one pawn just not two lol 33.Ba2 (2:34) fredisblogs(1813) whispers: is just bad now Funkmaus(2272) whispers: :( Nemisis(2113) whispers: I really think gf was a blunder. wmahan(2019) whispers: Bb4 b3 Bd7, ugh wmahan(2019) whispers: I'm probably just losing then 33...Ba4 (2:18) 34.b3 (0:12) Twikki(2067) whispers: white's position looks resignable Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: darn :< Nemisis(2113) whispers: You think so? mindlin(2011) whispers: why didn't he go for b3 before without the Ba2? fredisblogs(1813) whispers: just about lost Twikki(2067) whispers: Bd7 R-any Rxf4 Nemisis(2113) whispers: I don't know.. mindlin(2011) whispers: that is one backward bishop now wmahan(2019) whispers: this is painful fredisblogs(1813) whispers: the power of the bishop pair Nemisis(2113) whispers: I have seen positions with stronger players go from 5.00+ to 0.00 in a few moves, in similar positions. fredisblogs(1813) whispers: thats compensation for 2 pawns 34...Bd7 (3:03) 35.Re2 (0:13) Rxf4 (0:15) 36.Kb2 (0:08) Funkmaus(2272) whispers: this is too easy to blunder away Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: i guess white is just barely holding~ Nemisis(2113) whispers: Ya. Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: well, why not :< fredisblogs(1813) whispers: too much time on the clock Nemisis(2113) whispers: Your hope is wmahan keeps his psych up. 36...Bb5 (1:32) 37.Rc2 (0:19) Nemisis(2113) whispers: Rc2? 37...Bc6 (0:25) 38.Bc5 (0:34) Nemisis(2113) whispers: activity activity.. gf was too soon.:-) 38...a6 (0:47) 39.b4 (0:28) Breloczek(1887) whispers: go nokia! fredisblogs(1813) whispers: swap babies off Rg4 Twikki(2067) whispers: have to be careful Funkmaus(2272) whispers: bishop alive again Twikki(2067) whispers: Rg4 Be6 Rg2 Bxf5 and white has decent drawing chances fredisblogs(1813) whispers: whatever Twikki(2067) whispers: pushing the kingside pawns seems easiest 39...Be4 (3:31) 40.Rd2 (0:24) milpat(1930) whispers: black comes with threat at every moves..hard to have time to organize for white Twikki(2067) whispers: Be4 seems like a wasted move, didn't really accomplish anything fredisblogs(1813) whispers: prep for Rg4? 40...Rg4 (2:03) Twikki(2067) whispers: Be6 fredisblogs(1813) whispers: could have played that first imho 41.Rd7+ (0:35) Kh6 (0:05) Funkmaus(2272) whispers: go! 42.Bg8 (0:16) milpat(1930) whispers: Bg8 42...Rg2+ (0:15) milpat(1930) whispers: this let white play Kc3 on check 43.Kb3 (0:22) linuxblue(1716) whispers: go nokia! Twikki(2067) whispers: Kg5 an it's just a pawn trade, right? Twikki(2067) whispers: hmm, Be3+ is good in some lines 43...Bc2+ (2:10) fredisblogs(1813) whispers: this is dead now 44.Kc3 (0:33) Twikki(2067) whispers: black is really screwing this up Funkmaus(2272) whispers: now b7 hangs too! 44...Be4 (0:40) wmahan(2019) whispers: honestly these feel like weak moves by black but I'm probably missing some point 45.Rxh7+ (0:20) Kg5 (0:02) Twikki(2067) whispers: Nh6 lines are out because of Be3+ milpat(1930) whispers: b7 hangs u said? mindlin(2011) whispers: that was with the bishop on c2 milpat(1930) whispers: sorry Funkmaus(2272) whispers: black just wasted a move with Bc2+ imho Funkmaus(2272) whispers: gives hope 46.Be6 (2:01) Twikki(2067) whispers: I think he's wasted 3 or 4 milpat(1930) whispers: nice move Funkmaus(2272) whispers: OMG NO milpat(1930) whispers: no? Funkmaus(2272) whispers: Rc2, take B, fork on d4 Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: :s milpat(1930) whispers: h4+? Funkmaus(2272) whispers: brings solid 2 pieces against rook... wmahan(2019) whispers: so I'm still worse, but I might have drawing chances 46...Rc2+ (0:56) mindlin(2011) whispers: h4 a threat now Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: coming? milpat(1930) whispers: i see funk now wmahan(2019) whispers: argh, how did I miss this milpat(1930) whispers: Bd5+ trades Funkmaus(2272) whispers: thats a sad moment to feel the escape and realize that the trouble gets more serious 47.Kb3 (0:51) Rxc5 (0:00) mindlin(2011) whispers: yeah that's lost now i guess 48.bxc5 (0:01) Nd4+ (0:04) milpat(1930) whispers: omg 49.Kc4 (0:11) Nxe6 (0:00) Ismirdochegal(2108) whispers: horrible thing to say but at least im not the only patzer round here Funkmaus(2272) whispers: damn it milpat(1930) whispers: i guess u talking of me ismir 50.Re7 (0:58) Kf5 (0:11) Ismirdochegal(2108) whispers: lost another 35 standard points, i should just quit chess and move on to where the grass is green wmahan(2019) whispers: every time I think I have a chance I miss something :( Funkmaus(2272) whispers: yes - same for me everytime i get confidence i blunder Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: now this is really really hard to play :< Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: can even resign :s mindlin(2011) whispers: white has no counterplay Suiseiseki(2003) whispers: pretty much.. fredisblogs(1813) whispers: nearly winning without N 51.Kb4 (1:47) g5 (0:22) 52.Kc4 (1:05) Ke5 (0:17) Twikki(2067) whispers: Kc3 Twikki(2067) whispers: gotta get the king away while there are cheap shots like Kc3 Kd5 c6 available Twikki(2067) whispers: but even so, it's a lost cause 53.Rd7 (2:05) f5 (0:10) 54.Rd1 (0:41) f4 (0:15) 55.Rg1 (0:10) f3 (0:05) 56.Kc3 (0:06) Kf4 (0:13) 57.Kd2 (0:12) fredisblogs(1813) whispers: toast 57...f2 (0:13) 58.Rf1 (0:04) Kf3 (0:02) wmahan resigns 0-1
Zapis partii w postaci PGN (można skopiować i wkleić do programu, aby można było odtworzyć na ekranie monitora). [Event "FICS rated standard game"] [Site "FICS"] [White "wmahan"] [Black "NokiaTwenty"] [WhiteElo "2019"] [BlackElo "1926"] [TimeControl "2700+45"] [Date "2012-02-09"] [Result "0-1"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 d6 5. Nc3 Nf6 6. Be2 g6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. f3 O-O 9. Qd2 Nxd4 10. Bxd4 Be6 11. O-O-O Qa5 12. Kb1 Rfc8 13. Nd5 Qxd2 14. Rxd2 Nxd5 15. Bxg7 Nb4 16. a3 Rxc2 17. Bh6 Rxd2 18. Bxd2 Nc6 19. Bc3 f6 20. f4 d5 21. exd5 Bxd5 22. Rg1 Rd8 23. g4 Be4+ 24. Ka2 Bd5+ 25. Kb1 Bb3 26. Rg3 Bd1 27. Bc4+ Kf8 28. g5 Nd4 29. gxf6 exf6 30. Bb4+ Kg7 31. Re3 Nf5 32. Re6 Rd4 33. Ba2 Ba4 34. b3 Bd7 35. Re2 Rxf4 36. Kb2 Bb5 37. Rc2 Bc6 38. Bc5 a6 39. b4 Be4 40. Rd2 Rg4 41. Rd7+ Kh6 42. Bg8 Rg2+ 43. Kb3 Bc2+ 44. Kc3 Be4 45. Rxh7+ Kg5 46. Be6 Rc2+ 47. Kb3 Rxc5 48. bxc5 Nd4+ 49. Kc4 Nxe6 50. Re7 Kf5 51. Kb4 g5 52. Kc4 Ke5 53. Rd7 f5 54. Rd1 f4 55. Rg1 f3 56. Kc3 Kf4 57. Kd2 f2 58. Rf1 Kf3 {White resigns} 0-1